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| Ahem CrudeEcstasy 11 Mar 08 1:44PM | Thread Closed |
What if everyone decided right and wrong for themselves, without any regard for conventional morality? What if everyone did whatever they wanted to, with the courage to face any consequences? What if everyone feared loveless, lifeless monotony more than they fear taking risks, more than they fear being hungry or cold or in danger? What if everyone set down their "responsibilities" and "common sense," and dared to pursue their wildest dreams, to set the stakes high and live each day as if it were the last? Think what a place the world would be!
*crimethinc
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| re: Ahem unknown 11 Mar 08 2:16PM | Thread Closed |
duh - that happens already. Do you think laws written on paper keep anyone from breaking them?
we all decide what is right and wrong and act accordingly. A thief may steal but it is because he/she has decided it is right for them.
and as for courage to face consequences - everyone has to face consequences. it is unavoidable. whatever happens to you is the consequences of your actions. period.
Now this part of your question: "What if everyone feared loveless, lifeless monotony more than they fear taking risks, more than they fear being hungry or cold or in danger? What if everyone set down their "responsibilities" and "common sense," and dared to pursue their wildest dreams, to set the stakes high and live each day as if it were the last?"
has nothing to do with the first part.
taking risks does not mean you are moral or immoral, courageous or cowardly. but it does mean that change could happen and change is good.
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| re: Ahem tiedtoes 11 Mar 08 2:38PM | Thread Closed |
That is what everyone should do. The problem is, as we age, we decide that certain other things have priority. We slight ourselves instead of taking life by the strings to actually live.
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| re: Ahem unknown 11 Mar 08 3:31PM | Thread Closed |
you may say... I'm a dreamer.
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| re: Ahem Isabelle5 11 Mar 08 3:52PM | Thread Closed |
I believe sociopaths do this very thing.
I think that laws are good as boundaries but it's more important to have the laws internally, so you do good things without having to have someone tell you it's right or wrong.
Perhaps if you own your own island, this would work but most of us live in societies where we must lay down some groundrules. Don't expect everyone to be as mature or kind as you might be.
What is wrong with responsibility or common sense? Who do you think builds the roads and the bridges? The free thinkers? Not likely. Living each day as if it were your last would be exhausting, to say the least.
What about living each day as if it were everyone else's last, so you would be so good to everyone, knowing it's your last chance.
When I feel bored (which is nearly never), I create my own diversions. I imagine that's what we all do. So what confines you so that you would like to feel this way? Why are you not dreaming and living big already?
Isabelle, who really is interested in this thread.
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| re: Ahem CrudeEcstasy 12 Mar 08 4:14PM | Thread Closed |
Why is it that sociopaths come up first in your mind as people who do this? Not wanderers or dreamers or.....
I can't remember who said this, I think it was Big Billy Haywood or something.. he said essentially "The good people don't need the laws and the bad ones don't listen to them anyways." Did you really need to hear something was illegal to make you not want to partake in it?
This is an ideal. It works in communes and co operatives or wherever people chose to live it. In clicks. You can only expect what you give out. We all live in the same world, deal with essentially the same shit. The more you see it the better you relate and the more the possibility to create something else.
It's hard to assume that free thinkers or not really exist. I mean, think freely in what realm? What's that definition amount to? I mean, I know what you're saying. But I think that reality exists because of how polarized our society has become. How impossible it is to do anything in government (I know, I work for IT).
Would it? I think it just depends on how you would like to live your last day. And anyways, you're assuming your wish for your last day would be the same constantly. You live one, than the next day is different. so is the next. If you see time as one big endless line than that's part of the problem. That would be exhausting.
I like that though. As everyone's last. Has a beautiful feeling of whole.
Who says I'm not? It's just a nice flow of thought. Thought it would be a good thing to talk about.
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| re: Ahem unknown 12 Mar 08 4:20PM | Thread Closed |
Ever read Lord of the Flies?
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| re: Ahem unknown 12 Mar 08 4:50PM | Thread Closed |
>"What about living each day as if it were everyone else's last, so you would be so good to everyone, knowing it's your last chance."
Now THAT'S the first real stroke of genius i've read on this site in a while. I must admit that those thoughts sent me in the same direction as Isabelle. I suddenly wondered how many of the control freaks I'd dated would have let me live when I tried to leave them. Lord of the flies was a worthwhile read.
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| re: Ahem cowork 12 Mar 08 5:36PM | Thread Closed |
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No money down real estate; I've heard it all before.
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| re: Ahem AlchemiA 12 Mar 08 5:40PM | Thread Closed |
Love over Fear is the whole of Law -- Morality simply means being plain and simple in tune with Nature: not wasting time or energy on desire monkey dreams --
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