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teenage mutant poet apologia  joey  6 Aug 08 8:57AM Thread Closed

seems to me that creating order out of chaos is what people do, and some do it with chemicals and some with skin, but i think that, 'poets', we're the ones that word it out. it's not at all like we're the only kind of people who can deal with chaos, but we are the ones who use words over chaos to make and form patterns. all the writers here have their chaos -- broken hearts or hearts so full that the world parts shatter -- and we all bring our chaos here and, inevitably, share it, cause it's all so chaotic that it won't be tamed for us with simple being. sophistication, as 'poet and poetry' is simply seeing other wording people as becoming, and recognizing that no matter what, it's that we share writing as our way out.

re: teenage mutant poet apologia  chuckle_s  6 Aug 08 12:12PM Thread Closed

SEEMS TO ME THAT CREATING A SLIMY BROWN SPOT ON A PREVIOUSLY PRISTINE WHITE CHUNK OF TISSUE WHILST HOPING THAT NO LITTLE BALLED-UP REMNANTS OF SAID CHUNK LINGER IN THAT MOST UN-SUNNY PLACE IS WHAT PEOPLE DO. DO. BUT.
WE HERE "POETS" CAN TAKE ANY SPARE SQUARE AND PEG IT DOWN THAT HOLE AND THAT'S WHERE WORDS ARE TRULY BORN. IT'S THE ONLY WAY OUT. OUT!






















(damned spot)

re: teenage mutant poet apologia  Liliana  6 Aug 08 4:13PM Thread Closed

   'born out of the madness'       ?

re: teenage mutant poet apologia  dustybottoms  8 Aug 08 10:07AM Thread Closed

joey, write another poem please?

re: teenage mutant poet apologia  netskyIam  8 Aug 08 10:11AM Thread Closed

>SPARE SQUARE AND PEG IT DOWN THAT HOLE


mind the threads, mind the threads!  they'll strip!!!


lolz

re: teenage mutant poet apologia  joey  8 Aug 08 10:18AM Thread Closed

why don't you write a thorough-going analysis of some of my work and then get back to me on "write a poem"? i'd the impression you'd not thought i'd written one in the first place? don't be bashful -- just crit it out and crit in public.




> joey, write another poem please?

re: teenage mutant poet apologia  dustybottoms  8 Aug 08 11:04AM Thread Closed

christus! i was being for realz. i want to read a new poem of yours, but the boys is your last one. i want another.

its this new thing where i try and be open-minded. i realize that you are uber smart, and i'm not quite up to par. you're older, i'm younger. just tryin to learn bro.

re: teenage mutant poet apologia  Isabelle5  8 Aug 08 11:18AM Thread Closed

We do all find order in chaos, it's our nature, I think.  When was the last time you looked at a wall or a carpet and found faces?  We seem to have a need to find make things make sense.

I agree that poets try to crystallize moments of joy/pain/astonishment, etc. and put it into a form that makes sense.  I don't know if I agree that we share it all - most of my poetry is to my inner person first, for others second, unless I am directly writing for another person.  I do my taming alone and privately, then share after I've made order from my piece of chaos.

I must say, Mike, that this is the first thread I've read of yours that mostly makes sense.  

re: teenage mutant poet apologia  joey  8 Aug 08 1:36PM Thread Closed

you can't make a poem when the poem isn't necessary. you maybe use poetry in a different way then i do, and it wouldn't be real to think that i'm coming up with a new hit, when, in fact, it's more like coming up with a new epitaph. it's really painful for me when i write -- it's super depressing and high at the same time, and i need to have that right balance between mood and wording and need which seems to be the space which allows me to write a poem.

no poem is meant to be read only once, so i just don't know what you're saying when you say "the last one", like i was in a contest with myself, or only as good as my last one. i think i'm only as good as the next one i write, but i've got a couple that are ok. read "naked" and buzz my daisy on where it's really at.

> christus! i was being for realz. i want to read a new poem of yours,
> but the boys is your last one. i want another.
>
> its this new thing where i try and be open-minded. i realize that you
> are uber smart, and i'm not quite up to par. you're older, i'm
> younger. just tryin to learn bro.

re: teenage mutant poet apologia  Isabelle5  8 Aug 08 2:33PM Thread Closed

I guess it's VERY different for me.  I do not feel pain when I write, ever.  The topic might cause me sorrow but the writing itself is as cathartic as a good cry.  I never escape writing, it follows me right down into whatever sleep I can catch, plus I have to careful when I listen to music because some phrases just blast me with new poetic image.

Why do you write if it hurts?  That makes no sense to me, unless it's like when I lift heavy weights for my shoulders.  Hurts like heck doing it but the next day, the dull ache of growth is worth it.

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