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| re: History is constantly repeating itself. unknown 22 Oct 08 8:14AM | Thread Closed |
"Men are unsanctioned and self-appointed heralds of who and what women are. Not all women are misguided missiles nor are they poison nor do they operate on men. This is mere generalisations which only belittle women and once again define them in stereotype." - Mongrol
Men are unsanctioned and self-appointed heralds of who and what women are.
This appears to be a mere generalisation which only belittles men and once again defines them in stereotype.
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| re: History is constantly repeating itself. unknown 22 Oct 08 8:19AM | Thread Closed |
Yes, Isabelle is not into gay white boys, anyway! haha! I like my men young and dark, with a lovely accent - green card optional.
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| re: History is constantly repeating itself. Mongrol 22 Oct 08 8:31AM | Thread Closed |
> Men are unsanctioned and self-appointed heralds of who and what women
> are.
>
> This appears to be a mere generalisation which only belittles men and
> once again defines them in stereotype.
Welcome to the bed already made by others generalisations and stereotypes about women.
See how it works the other way?
Offensive isn't it...
Change the routine, and the proper discourse will follow.
I'm still waiting to hear who will 'protect' us little women, and from what do we need protecting?
Could the answer be men on both counts?
.. and if the answer is men, and men have been 'protecting women' since primeval times, then surely the only danger women have ever been is from men... even when the communities they lived in were fairly evenly balanced between the genders, and so boys grew into men surrounded by a typically balanced environment.
Which makes a mockery of any and all studies and assertions that the problems men have, and the problems men cause women is a modern phenomena. Sounds like men (and women) have had their 'problems' with one another since day one.
I do love the attempts to paint a rosy picture of the romance of ages gone past, the romance of the stone age through to say Victorian times, when it is patent nonsense of course.
The biological imperative order of things would naturally assume a male and female are needed, which seems fair enough, but as for anything else, things change, society changes, it always has done, it always will do... we will not be returning to the Chocolate Boxtop 1950's nuclear family values...
Sorry to hurt your ever so macho tough guy feelings by returning favours, but if the generalisations of women here are 'correct', then so are mine about men. ;)
Stand back, have a look at the picture, is an impressionist piece.
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| re: History is constantly repeating itself. unknown 22 Oct 08 10:22AM | Thread Closed |
Title - Women are "Smarter" than Men.
Henry Ford was a smart guy. Not because he could recite literature, history, law, or any of that on the fly but because he could get others to do it for him. When critics accused him of being stupid, he invited journalists in to answer any question. Around him he had his employees who answered all the journalists questions. "See how smart I am?" he would say. But a journalist said, "But Mr. Ford, you didn't answer a single question." But he didn't have to since he had others to do it for him.
From the vantage point of men, women have these characteristics:
-They show no interest in philosophy, literature, or higher spirituality.
-They show interest in celebrities, gossip, and a lowly ordered life (lack of spirituality).
-They appear emotional with lots of 'oohs and ahhs' as well as crying on the spot. They have temper tantrums. They appear giddy one moment and contemptous the next.
-They are physically weaker than men and do not perform well in the subjects of mathematics and engineering.
-They turn down 'nice guys' and mate with thugs and other scum. Sometimes they become single mothers and end up in poverty.
-When they are young, they think of dating all the time and are always on the look-out for 'Mr. Right'.
And yet, women are smarter than men. On MRA forums, you can hear men constantly give examples and say how dumb women are almost with a white-hot frenzy. What does women being dumb have to do with MRA? Nothing, yet it persists. The answer is that MRA men are in denial of the truth: that women are smarter than men.
Let us look at the vantage point from the woman. In fact, let us say for this moment you are a pretty woman. You do not need to work. All you need to do is get a guy to work for you. Viola, you are done.
On a man's financial statement, a girlfriend would be labeled as an 'expense' while a wife would be labeled as a 'liability'. But on a woman's financial statement, the boyfriend can be labeled as 'income' with the husband being an 'asset'. Men dislike dating for one part it is always money out of their pocket. But imagine if dating was putting money into your pocket, and, if you got the target, you would have an asset? Why, dating would fill your mind day in and day out! You would always be on the hunt for a working asset to acquire or 'potential asset' that was young enough to come and bloom to make money (especially if that asset had a college degree). Now, do see how women are smarter than men?
Celebrity worship is something that irritates us Men. Celebrities are not geniuses but quite the opposite! But scratch beneath the surface. Celebrities have money. Celebrities have power. Celebrities own the media. Maybe they aren't that stupid for how else could they have acquired that? Women look at celebrities as teachers for themselves. Celebrities are mind numbed fools (which puts them in common with women) yet they acquired so much. Women want that so they look at the celebrity as the model, the template to follow. Women often refer to their male admirers as their 'fan club'.
Intelligence and smart are too different things. A man may be intelligent yet be stupid. Michael Chriton, married five times and divorced four times. He is an intelligent man but pretty stupid. Issac Newton was intelligent. But he was stupid. (see how he pined for this one woman and her daughter(!)) Many men are intelligent. Most are stupid though.
Women are not the emotional ones. They see love in a very calculated manner. It is men who are the emotional ones. It is men who kill themselves over a girl or go bonkers in some other way. It is men who are the saps. The bottom line is when it comes to romance, women use men more than the other way around. Even the men who think they are 'using her' really is the other way around. How do I know this? Compare the 'work' a player does to the average hot girl. The average hot girl just puts on some 'hot' clothes and that is it. The player, meanwhile, spends agonizing amount of time working his 'game'. This game is like that wooden maze with the mouse (who is the player) and the cheese (the pussy) at the end. But who made the game? The women staring from the outside (as calculated as the scientist).
But what about the lack of spirituality? Surely, men are smarter from abandoning the lowly ordered life! But again, no. Spirituality is something that even a begger can obtain. But a big house, fancy car, and all that, no, only a few can get riches.
Many MRA men have realized that killing yourself for a job is not a smart idea. In fact, the smart thing to do is to have a stress free job with benefits (which women all obtain should they choose to work). Men might say, "But they do not know mathematics and engineering!" Actually, women don't know the humanities as well. So women changed the humanities to be whatever they felt like studying (feminism got rid of all the dead white male authors for example). So women are popping out with 'college degrees' that are worthless. But worthless to WHOM? Why, to many men at businesses who are interested in workers. This type of woman never had any interest in really 'working' anyway. She just wanted the status.
In the West, men operate from a Slave Morality (as described by Nieztche). The biggest believers in the Slave Morality are the 'nice guys'. Nice guys are great for marriage (i.e. slavery) but they are not good, to women, for dates and all. Why? And the 'thugs' that men think are losers because they do not operate from the 'Slave Morality' mentality, these thugs and 'scum' have much in common with western women. Women operate from a Master Morality. Every pretty woman thinks she is a huge celebrity in her little world. Thugs and 'scum' (from the male point of view) operate on a Master Morality so they are more in tune with women. From woman's point of view, nice guys are the 'losers and scum' who they must be careful with their words as to not break the slave's heart. But the thugs appear to be more 'equals'. When a Nice Guy finds his balls and acts that way to a woman, she is astonished. Now imagine how stunned a slavemaster might be when a slave stood up to him! The slavemaster would think, "Wow, that slave has lots of fight in him. He will make a great slave! He is not broken in yet." Notice how the thoughts are identical with women?
Women use shame tactics because they work on most men. Women, like little Caesars, can order men about at their will. This is why women are smarter than men.
But what of the single mother who lives in poverty? On first glimpse, yes, she appears very stupid. But actually, she is CLUMSY. One being clumsy is not the same as being stupid. Women aim at the stress free, fun life (which is smart) while many men aim for more-stress, responsible life (which is often stupid). Women want to live to the fullest. She will screw the guy should it be in 'the moment'. But she got pregnant not because she was stupid but because she was clumsy in not applying birth control. Hence, Planned Parenthood and so many other agendas pushing birth control education (and free birth control) everywhere. Many groups, men and religious groups, believe this is a hedonistic for-the-love-of-sex act. What it is, really, is a calculated for-the-clumsy-women act.
Granted, with both men and women, there are differentiating levels of stupidity and smarts. But, comparing the whole of one gender against the other, women are smarter than men.
Look at how politicians bend to their aim.
Look how they have taken over colleges.
Look at how courts serve them.
All the marriage laws run in a circle around woman, elevating her, while pushing down the man to serve for her. Child payment and assets-taken-by-divorce are really nothing more than legally enslaving a man.
See how, in romance, men are in full anxiety and go to tremendous lengths for a woman (where as she hardly goes to much lengths at all).
Women are smarter than men. You know this was the truth you've been fighting against for so long. We cannot improve until we accept this tremendous fact: women won.
"But Pook! Women were not smarter than men throughout most of history? So what happened?" What happened was that women were able to make men stupid and, thus, manipulate them at will. How a man becomes "stupid" to be ripe for "manipulation" is the matriarchy's great secret and is for another post altogether. And it isn't what you think.
The comic Jeff Foxworthy realized this truth himself when, as he said, his wife declared that she was hot and he, automatically, got up and turned on the fan. She didn't ask for the fan to turn on, but he automatically did it. Walking back to the couch, it hit him. "Women are smarter than men," he realized because they have us working for them.
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| re: History is constantly repeating itself. Mongrol 22 Oct 08 10:29AM | Thread Closed |
I sense, and indeed read, a lot of sarcastic hypocrisy in the above commentary.
You need to be a man, and stop blaming women for the directions you take day to day.
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| re: History is constantly repeating itself. Isabelle5 22 Oct 08 10:30AM | Thread Closed |
Wish there were a way to take a vote here about all the crap we think about each sex.
I am a woman disinterested in celebrities or clothes, I like watching political shows and bull riding, I can be quiet, I can be chatty.
The fact that we still try to pigeonhole each sex only means that we still don't have total equality. I can't imagine that we ever will, as long as these archaic and biased attitudes exist. And it's not only men who hate women, I've heard women complain about other women as much as they complain about men!
It's good that we can make fun of each other, as there is much hilarity involved in trying to assess someone other than ourselves.
I like the differences. When I have a man of my own, he is the luckiest man, as I do everything for him, because I wish to, not because I have to. My second husband didn't even had to put ice in his tea, I did everything but wipe him and once, on a dare, I did that, too.
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| re: History is constantly repeating itself. Mongrol 22 Oct 08 10:32AM | Thread Closed |
"Let us look at the vantage point from the woman. In fact, let us say for this moment you are a pretty woman. You do not need to work. All you need to do is get a guy to work for you. Viola, you are done."
Such as this myth.
You obviously are scared about the reality of smart, hard working women, and are having difficulty accepting this fact.
Emasculation seems to be your middle name, perhaps it really is time to be looking at source for your issues with women.
Source = you.
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| re: History is constantly repeating itself. Isabelle5 22 Oct 08 11:03AM | Thread Closed |
Yeah, Mong!
My daughters are both beautiful. They worked hard in school, in college, both married great guys but they were never on the take. Even staying home with their children, they both have jobs so that they are adding to the family coffers.
You must be talking about beautiful and Dumb women.
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| re: History is constantly repeating itself. unknown 22 Oct 08 11:43AM | Thread Closed |
Much as I hate to intrude into Isabelle’s prefect world of male / female relations.
It was interesting to note that Isabelle did every thing for her partner.
Surely, most men would run a mile from such women.
Much as it appears Isabelle received gratification by her actions, did she ever consider her partners true wishes.
I would be most surprised to find that he actually enjoyed such a situation, unless he was an out and out mammy’s boy.
There is nothing more infuriating when practicing the social niceties to find you are landed with one of today’s modern misses, who when ever you open the door for them will invariably attempt to open the closed one.
In such instances I usually just let it bang in their face, and let them find their own seat, and order my meal as though they were not there.
Women are the easiest commodity to buy; you merely have to find their price.
There is very little emotion involved.
Mor.
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| re: History is constantly repeating itself. Isabelle5 22 Oct 08 12:09PM | Thread Closed |
He enjoyed it, Mor. We did everything he wanted, including the hours long tennis and watching ball games together. When I wasn't working, what else was I going to do? When I went to work, it changed, of course, at which time he began to be unhappy because all my time was not devoted to him. Last time he called me, he said his new wife does his laundry, cleaning, cooking, everything. When I reminded him that I did that, too, he could not remember that part!
hahaha See what booze does to a human brain after many years?
I don't have a perfect male/female word, Mor, never did. I write poetry sometimes that reflects what I wish but more times, it reflects what is real. I am not into men and women 'roles,' unless the woman is having children. You can't change that role, the woman has to do it!
I'm sorry that you think women are only commodities. I'm also sorry that you dicker with them to find their price.
Big difference between priceless and worthless, though. I'd rather be alone the rest of my life than EVER again be with a man who thinks I can be bought.
As for doors, I get them for anyone who needs a hand.
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