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regarding the olive

oiled men
another era
grimy gritty
soaking sweating
in the thermal waters
of ancient Britain's Bath
olive skin Roman minds
thermal heat formal baths
strigles scraping silent sweet
olive oil
until one hundred years ago
this was always termed sweet oil
is basis of our modern soap
communion has long-ceased at Bath.

28 Feb 05

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Olive oil up to one century ago was termed only by  "sweet oil".  
The word pairs are suggestive and mixable.  
The last word of the poem leads back into the first.
Bath, England is the setting.  
"scraping" refers to the after-soak and after-oiling cleansing of skin by communal bathers for each other
Soap was not invented.  The oil served to release grime.  
"thermal"  is the natural hot water of the springs at Bath.  
"heat" is whatever you wish to take it to be.   T
the word/idea pairings are recombinant
-thanks for your inputs-
 — unknown

A didactic excercise?  To me it's not interesting yet.  Seems like a description taken out of context.
 — housepoppy

perhaps so.  perhaps more.  I suppose each reader must feel one thing or another; and none will be wrong.  thank you.. I hope the commentary does not spoil the poem.  I did that because there's no reason to expect people today to understand "sweet" or "scraping" or even "thermal" and "Bath" being that town with the best preserved of all Roman baths.  Would it be more if the poem were made into a speaking, living kind of poem?  I did not try for that much... so.. its either interesting as-is, or it is not.. and your point is valid, for famn sure. thanks
 — unknown

You know, maybe the description, although I thought I appreciated, ruined the poem for me.  Let me cleanse my mind and re-read while newly ignorant...
damn, I like it better (NOT sarcasm).
 — unknown

Soap had been invented, only to the Romans soap was just about as strange of a conept as scraping oil off our skins as it is to us today.
 — unknown

The above was me.
 — Rixes

thanks very much, Rixes and unsigned.  I've applied a spoiler warning so that any others who may read won't get disappointed unawares.  I'll study soap history!  I know how  to make soap, but gee... I did not know there was any soap around then at all.  Shows how little I know. thanks!
 — unknown

Id l;ike this as a kinda living poem.  You should be there.  I think it would be a lot better.   Before I read your description I thought by Bath you just meant the ancient roman baths in Rome,  not actually in Bath,   my uncle lives in Bath.
 — MFine

Yeah, I dunno... I think it was lost on my simple mind. I sort of got more out of the first post as a history lesson then I did the poem. I liked it a little more, knowing some about it, but the words, the context of the poem, it's still so foreign to me... like the first time I read Shakespeare at way too early of an age.

I rarely think a poem should be longer... but this one, it might help me as the reader to get into it more if the lines were longer and there was more of a description of that era or the experience. Almost more of a story... For something that most people won't have an intimate knowledge, maybe more is more. That's my two cents, you can give me back the change :)
 — Greg

nice poem
 — varun

I've revised to make the poem clearly self-supporting. 3/24/06
 — netskyIam




 — unknown

Oh, pu-leeze?  Let these old poems lay in the dust?
This is at the top of the just-commented list or I would not note, and ask,
I am not posting here as anyone but as myself, Reid Welch/netskyIam.

I don't play unknown games.  I try to make better poems as time may teach me.
 — netskyIam

netsky is a parasite.
oh, woe is poor beleaguered Ernie
 — unknown