Comments:
That is sad, doing bad stuff to others to watch their reactions, just to feel ourselves alive...
— nisetru
this kind of shape: "we..." ... how does it come about? where are you when you're writing about this "we", if not suddenly, "one of them"... looking on coldly? and being looked at by us as something moving through mazes and changing colors, as you write? "irony" is more that the author thinks he's somehow "not involved". the way the words go down, the way the phrases are used, reflects exactly what it is that the author hates, and writes about in "irony". that's what keeps this kind of writing on the level of topical comment, and not poetry.
— joey
we write
boring crap on webpages,
and sucker comments from eager assholes
the sad situation.
— unknown
hey if you think we are eager assholes ten tell me why you are writing such a comment. Anyway, it is a great poem
— unknown
""irony" is more that the author thinks he's somehow "not involved"."
No. That's just simply not the case. Sorry.
— unknown
then, really, this is only a crappy poem, and has no substance or conceptual direction? or, maybe you don't really understand the word "irony", which is probably more likely the case.
— joey
actually, what's really funny is it appears you are misusing the word "irony." good try on the "critique" though. there are only two alternative readings for this piece right? stuck-up "irony" about how great the author is (hence its trite nature) or "crappy poem." this is why you will never be taken seriously.
— unknown
um, my take on "irony" would be that it's always the one joe who thinks he knows what's going on being played with by some other joes -- gods or men.
the normal and ordinary "ironic" -- what you'd find in websters or even the OED is simply a usage borrowed from a misconception. i'd prefer to see the word game as a game and not a drag show... but, that's because i'm always very involved with words. sort of the idiot that people are always saying i am. but, this is a word place -- a place where idiots like me can talk to other idiots. you're obviously a little too smart for poetry.
— joey
that would be one style of irony, there are other widely recognized varieties. none of which i can think of would apply to this piece in any meaningful way.
the "normal and ordinary" ironic as you call it, perhaps the alanis morissette definition of the word is still a meaning of the word whether you and your involvement with words labels it a "misconception" or not. words only exist because we continue to use them. they're a function of our social interactions, you can slam your pointer on the chalkboard talking, screaming about the proper use derived directly from its known etymology... but no one's listening.
what is ironic is the verbally ironic way in which you're trying to give me a bunch of back handed compliments and how you probably assume they're blowing right over my head. the situational irony here is i get it and i'm shaking my head at your pettiness.
— unknown
"widely recognized" means, what, exactly, when you come right down to it? or, don't you think that word-meanings are superimposed on other meanings, the way novelties supersede necessities? why not say "fred"? -- "it was freddingly certain that his discomfort stemmed from an understanding of the word, and that that understanding was in error, and depended on having learnt that one meaning at a certain place and time; that his look of devastation must come from realizing that "mrs. pommier's fan" meant something very different to these people than it had to his old nanny."
-- proust
— joey
we think
smart things and shoot-downs,
of television-altered cliche's
and mother-scolding-damnations
we drop
others, who won't do --
and watch them die of chagrin:
the tooty-frooty squares.
all so we can
say something
cool.
— joey
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